tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8700519.post111554986612600208..comments2023-11-02T06:50:42.385-07:00Comments on Hope Springs Eternal...: My Mallu Heroes...Jibyhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/07324353796946088382noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8700519.post-1115905141188016782005-05-12T06:39:00.000-07:002005-05-12T06:39:00.000-07:00I am sorry I meant no offence this will be my last...I am sorry <BR/>I meant no offence <BR/>this will be my last post <BR/>but I would like to continue visiting your blog <BR/>I think <A HREF="http://www.blogger.com/profile/7955507" REL="nofollow"> silverline</A>got a point here <BR/>Coz in debates we succumb to emotionalism<BR/>that we won't be able to come up with facts<BR/>(and I was busy with my work too/ sure that's no excuse)<BR/>And I agree that i was way out of line<BR/> <BR/><BR/>"we have debated and argued over and over again thse same things but we <BR/>have never been able to convert each other"<BR/><BR/>yes you are right<BR/><BR/><BR/>I sure can furnish my "argument" with facts, but it seems to me that you are not interested in the other side of the story<BR/><BR/>If u want u can drop me a line @ hafizanwar(at)gmail(dot)comHafishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07419566580279521034noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8700519.post-1115889661831242502005-05-12T02:21:00.000-07:002005-05-12T02:21:00.000-07:00googoo,i read manorama, kaumudi, deepika, mathrubh...googoo,i read manorama, kaumudi, deepika, mathrubhumi, indian express, hindu and bharat rakshak daily... unfortunately i am away from home now...so i pick and choose wht to digest and not. when i seperated nationalism from politics i meant the free-for-all that kerala politics has become and the unbelievable partiality amongst our media...while an issue which deals with india's security concerns crops up i have been delighted to read a lot of good stuff.as for liberalization we are ppl whose viewpoints are poles apart...u cant shed me any light.. neither can i lecture u. why do we have to politicize everything...ask a hungry man whether politics will satiate his hunger...ask a ravished woman whether politics will give her back her pride...wht connects all ppl is not politics...its humanity...its sadly very lacking in our society now. dont put that comforts of ur home argument in front of me...i left the comforts of my home and have struggled to build from scratch a life on alien soil.<BR/><BR/>well claaasssh i neednt go epochs back... who started the sale of education ...wasnt it ur own previous govt...remember the plus-two scam...i dont want to defend this govt either. as 4 u calling smart-city nothing but a real estate firm...u got it rite hundred percent...thats exactly wht they do...and since they have invested that much money...u will see buildings sprout up fast without public money leaking out in the construction with some really good infrastructure and i can imagine the number of companies that will buy office space there...i hope that v.s and cronies allow them to start work fast having seen the stagnation tvm technopark went thru until recently!claassh i respect ur opinions...i have friends who are exactly like u...we have debated and argued over and over again thse same things but we have never been able to convert each other!<BR/><BR/>well when i set out to rite this post abt some of my heroes...i never expected even in my wildest dreams that i wud be defending some things totally perepheral to wht i wrote...googoo i had the option of deleting ur comments...that wuz the easy path out...yet i have responded to ur remarks. personally i like to leave some nice comments on blogs i visit, to encourage the person to keep writing.My idea of a blog is to do some casual writing abt my experiences & thoughts...I dont know wht ur idea of a blog is...certainly i didnt intend to have this here to be a place to debate...if u choose not to come back here frankly i will be one happy soul!Jibyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07324353796946088382noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8700519.post-1115889551516906472005-05-12T02:19:00.000-07:002005-05-12T02:19:00.000-07:00i know u can list a lot!!! new cars, Televisions, ...<I>i know u can list a lot!!! new cars, Televisions, new junk food products and a million employment created)<BR/>analyse the facts, see things in the real light</I><BR/><BR/>Analyse what fact??? See what real things in real light? Don't be vague. Spell it out!I am very sure like most Commies you only believe in rhetorics. Not facts.Cos u dont have any facts and figures.silverinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16474136215458639419noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8700519.post-1115884741965277322005-05-12T00:59:00.000-07:002005-05-12T00:59:00.000-07:00Ignorance is no excuse"i depend on newspapers too ...Ignorance is no excuse<BR/><BR/>"i depend on newspapers too much and since this wuz more of a nationalist<BR/>than political issue i dont think they wud twist the truth"<BR/>Which News paper buddy ? Malayala Manorama!!!<BR/><BR/><BR/>There are three sides to every story yours mine and the truth, and truth<BR/>is hard to find. sitting in the comfort of your home, won't help you find truth. There are alternatives.<BR/><BR/>I don't think it's worth my time to defend the vacuous allegations of bias against "commies"<BR/><BR/>So let's talk about something else<BR/><BR/>how can an issue involving people can be distanced from politics.<BR/>explain to me (I am dumbo).How can something in the national interest<BR/>can be distanced from politics. No matter you agree with it or not<BR/>Politics is omnipresent.It's in the air you breathe, water you drink,<BR/>food you eat. because everything that concerned with the people,<BR/>not alien to politics.<BR/><BR/>Liberalization = trade iberalisation<BR/><BR/>before going rhetoric about the benefits brought by "liberalization"<BR/>( i know u can list a lot!!! new cars, Televisions, new junk food products and a million employment created)<BR/>analyse the facts, see things in the real light<BR/><BR/><BR/>If u don't like criticism, I got to tell you this you are missing out the very purpose of a blog<BR/><BR/> good bye friendHafishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07419566580279521034noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8700519.post-1115868749711348082005-05-11T20:32:00.000-07:002005-05-11T20:32:00.000-07:00to give a birds eye view of what communism had don...to give a birds eye view of what communism had done to kerala.. u had to travel epochs!<BR/> but just look at what the present govt is doing.. right from education to sand they have sold everything!! this 5 years will be one among them, where the other alternative in kerala is proven to be a big farce! <BR/><BR/>smart city is a scandal worth 500 crores! dubai internet city is neither and it firm nor a company! its just another real estate buldozing giant!clashhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14968784384859928316noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8700519.post-1115834293156276822005-05-11T10:58:00.000-07:002005-05-11T10:58:00.000-07:00hey there, thanx for the snide remarks googoo! it ...hey there, thanx for the snide remarks googoo! it wuz nice of u to snub me without leaving any reasons! on wayanad...i depend on newspapers too much and since this wuz more of a nationalist than political issue i dont think they wud twist the truth...so i stand my ground. well if ur slotting me as a bourgeouis, forget it...my interest in politics, current affairs and history is more of a hobby than a passion...u guys dont understand one thing...ppl like me blog bcoz we have an urge to do some writing...not to show off our intellectual prowess...took a look at ur blogs...i am impressed!! look at thousands and thousands of ur fellow countrymen who find it easy to get a job when they graduate from any college...the public sector had tried for 40 yrs in vain to boost job creation but look at the promise 10 yrs of private sector jobs has brought to the indian economy...thats all i have to say abt liberalization...let time decide who still wears the facade!Jibyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07324353796946088382noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8700519.post-1115821655449009332005-05-11T07:27:00.000-07:002005-05-11T07:27:00.000-07:00"The drought there is making wayanad a hotbed of P..."The drought there is making wayanad a hotbed of PWG activities"<BR/>nice piece of observation!!!!<BR/>can't help laughing buddy<BR/>This is a general problem with all the <BR/>farex/cerelac feeded sons of India.<BR/>ok <BR/>I agree with you <BR/>Main stream "Communists" are pseudo<BR/><BR/>"clla...... h"<BR/>all i wanna say is that u r another soul who is mesmerised by the facade "liberalization"!<BR/><BR/>very true, his leanigs shows even in his writing styleHafishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07419566580279521034noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8700519.post-1115721767352796512005-05-10T03:42:00.000-07:002005-05-10T03:42:00.000-07:00Well defended Jiby. Though I do not know much abou...Well defended Jiby. Though I do not know much about Kerala politics, I do know that the Commies are no different from their other political bretheren, except for the red flags, sloganeering and campus politiking.silverinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16474136215458639419noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8700519.post-1115661341165374112005-05-09T10:55:00.000-07:002005-05-09T10:55:00.000-07:00yeah im critical of them too. i realise the potent...yeah im critical of them too. i realise the potential degradation of the kerala communist to a phoney "social democrat" !! but when u say abt the industrial stagnation of kerala, we shud remember that kerala had the highest % of industrial growth in the seventies, when the co called trade unions were at their peak!<BR/> <BR/>i have my own view points, just jotted down some of them here.. thats all.. all i wanna say is that u r another soul who is mesmerised by the facade "liberalization"!clashhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14968784384859928316noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8700519.post-1115648870956612292005-05-09T07:27:00.000-07:002005-05-09T07:27:00.000-07:00well ur a commie i believe and as such most of the...well ur a commie i believe and as such most of the history that has been written is from the viewpoint of the party. the main point i put forward here wuz is our history being taught in schools...and as such i have found that a discernible pride for kerala in terms of our history is lacking in most mallus.<BR/><BR/>wht i say from now abt communism may offend u...i am really sorry but there is no other way to make the argument...communism wuz gud for the state at one time but it shud have been disbanded rite after the 57-59 ems ministry.they were a visionary and dynamic cabinet who brought in land and education reforms. if pseudo is not the word to describe a party responsible for the industrial stagnation of the state,now one which pizhiyufies the masses of kerala to build tv channels, increase circulation of the party newspaper, build 10-15 storey buildings in honor of their late comrades(one which came up recently in honor of a mahan cm under whose helm kerala went bankrupt), a manaveeyam campaign for which a top cpm comrades son wuz flown to north india for taking flute lessons and another ustad flown to tvm!!! wht gud do u do for the state now...if a smart city comes up the first thing u shout out is corruption...when kerala wuz to be computerized in 80's ur cadres destroyed hundreds of newly ordered comps saying they wud cause job loss!!! man i cud come up with a 100 such reasons why communism wont help kerala again.<BR/><BR/>well how can the draught in wayanad be related to sucking ground water in palakkad...dude we cut our trees, dont reduce our pollution, destory our rivers...the reason u can have a grouse against coke is that they brought in out-of-state labour knowing the troubles they wud have with u guys organizing unions b4 even a hand is raised in work... well! neways ur hold over kerala is weakening...ur getting fewer students to indulge in violence and campus politics with ppl realizing the amount jobs out there in the market that liberalization has produced for ppl with all kinds of education... once this generation of the dyfi is out its kudos to cadre-based politics in kerala. maybe if u want to contine this debate we can take it off this blog to email.Jibyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07324353796946088382noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8700519.post-1115630554232022962005-05-09T02:22:00.000-07:002005-05-09T02:22:00.000-07:00may be thats a misconception! that our history is ...may be thats a misconception! that our history is not well recorded, there is logans manual which in depth goes through the anthropological and natural nuances of kerala and then there are "n" no:of books that has been written about our past. now there is effort made by local panchayats in northern kerala to write the history of their particular places.<BR/><BR/> Verghese ofcourse is a hero. but the connotation "pseudo" abt the communists cannot be easily gobbled, every system has its own flip sides. in those times they were the only one's who voiced there protest against the ruthless fuedals in kerala, congress as the church did in latin america was on the side of the exploiters!<BR/> <BR/>again when u talk about the draught in wayanad and people going all up in arms.. its good that, we think abt plachimaada in palghat where the cola-giant is sucking the ground water like a gluttonous leach! people fight for reasons.. they are not being "pseudo"......<BR/><BR/> sorry for this dry verbiage!clashhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14968784384859928316noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8700519.post-1115557311625436522005-05-08T06:01:00.000-07:002005-05-08T06:01:00.000-07:00This is amazing and very thought proviking. So we ...This is amazing and very thought proviking. So we <I>do</I> have our share of heroes. I feel proud.silverinehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16474136215458639419noreply@blogger.com